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    Default Concord Award (hacking scene award)

    Last November, a panel of twelve (three admin staff members each from GSHI, KodeWerx, CodeMasters-Project, and Hacking101) established the Concord Award, a collaborative, scene-wide award given to a single person, for overall contribution to the scene (whether that contribution is in the form of hacking codes, creating hacking tools, building hacking communities, teaching new hackers the trade, or anything else that's worthy). The winner of the 2008 Concord Award was Kenobi, with a landslide vote of 7-3 (obviously, two members did not vote). As a collaboration between admin staff of the four primary sites in the hacking scene, it was a relative success. It also established a standardized, open source of communication between the four sites, which in itself was at least a minimal achievement.

    However, it was more of a dry run than the 'real thing', and only sporadic, tentative, and hurried thought went into it. There was no established prize for the award, and the Q & A that was planned to take place between the winner and a chosen delegate never happened. Hacking 101 fell upon ill times and disappeared shortly thereafter, and, as always, the staff members of the remaining three sites had their own endeavors to deal with.

    Rather than continue the trend, dealing with the Concord Award when the time comes, having a quick vote between a select (and now 25% smaller) group of delegates, and ideas and input only coming from those few, it would be optimal to set the stage for Concord in advance, to establish guidelines and an infrastructure, and to open it up to a public vote.

    Now we need input from everyone as to how to go about such an award.

    For a general layout of the Concord Award, drop by http://ConcordAward.org (however, keep in mind that some content is still geared toward the old system, and will be revised). Specifically, some tentative rules can be found here: http://concordaward.org/index.php/Panel_Rules

    A couple of things that will need to be decided on:

    - How will the vote take place? Should it be a forum thread-vote, or something more advanced? As we must require authentication of some kind to avoid abuse of the voting system, what kind of authentication is prudent, and what type of voting system would facilitate this? Moreover, how will we, if we do at all, determine if users are double-voting, by creating new accounts with false names? Shall we require that voters are approved somehow?

    - What should the prize for the award be? An inscribed plaque with a trophy might be a good idea, and would at least be something unseen in the hacking scene, but there are plenty of other potential prizes, and perhaps more than one prize could be awarded (a monetary, and a sentimental, perhaps).

    ...and I'm sure there are a few other considerations. Let us know your thoughts.
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    sounds interesting.

    could a person win more than once.

    can there be a sub award for those who made a (positive) impact in the hacking scene
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    these are a few of the ideas off the top of my head at the moment.

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    Good questions.

    I'm not sure whether a person should be allowed to win more than once (or be nominated, if he/she has won before). On the one hand, if it were a true test of accomplishment within the last year, everyone should be afforded the same opportunity to win. On the other hand, negating that would allow other people a chance at the spotlight. So, I think I'd prefer to allow anyone the ability to win as many times they're voted the winner, but I do think it's worth voting on, if anyone else thinks it's worth it.

    What kind of a sub-award? A "second place" sort of thing? If not, keep in mind that anyone in the scene can already be given the Concord Award, including those who do not hack...
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    sort of like there is the actor of the year, best film of the year, best female actor of the year, all those being current awards. they also have a "lifetime achievement" award. the sub award i was thinking about would be modeled somewhat after that.

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    There could be, but I think participation would be much higher if we started with one award. Again, if more people say they'd actually be interested in a sub-award system, we could always implement it. That's the beauty of having started the discussion months in advance. Now to spread the word about this thread, so we can get opinions from across the board. I'll make a few threads on the other forums; feel free to let other people know.
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    A few voting systems worth considering:

    http://www.demochoice.org/

    http://www.cs.cornell.edu/andru/civs.html

    http://www.ballotbin.com/

    The crux of the matter is that secure voting requires authentication, which hinders the voting process and might deter people from voting (too much hassle), but unsecure voting means that the votes cannot be taken seriously (too high a chance of foul play).
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    CheatlersLounge.net is now a member of Concord
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    I checked out BalletBin and DemoChoice, and neither have very good management functionality. CIVS seems to be the best choice, especially in terms of versatility. Unless another member of Concord comes up with a better system, we'll stick with CIVS.

    Here's how it will work:

    We'll make a thread on each site's forums, explaining the Concord Award, and when voting starts and ends. Thanks to CIVS's write-in function, nominations and votes will be the same (if you don't see the person you want to vote for in the list, you simply write him/her in). Anyone who wants to vote will simply say so, and provide an email address (which can be provided by PM, if the user wishes to keep his/her email address unknown), to which a link (which will be assigned a key) will be sent to. The user clicks that link, makes their vote, and that's it (one key, one vote).

    The major remaining issue to consider is...how do we determine who's legitimate, and who's just pretending to be a new user, in order to vote more than once? I think the only logical option is to have the members of Concord (three delegates from each scene site; currently GSHI.org, KodeWerx.org, and CodeMasters-Project.net) "vouch" for each member, affirming that they do indeed know of this user, and that IP addresses match). This provides a reasonable level of security, though it does limit the voting pool to current known members of the scene, and pretty much excludes "passive" members who merely watch from the sidelines...
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    I'll make a proper announcement later, but the time is rolling around in which you'll need to decide who's done the most impressive work in the hacking scene in the last year. Nominations and voting (a 1-step process) will open in late October/early November.
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    I nominate Jake Stein of the PCSX2 development. he seems to be working hard on bug fixing pcsx2.

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