They are 'trying' to 'ban' video games----AGAIN

[Amy]

Well, not really trying to 'ban' them, but ban them from being 'bought' by children.

My issue with this is, well have not we already GOT that video game rating system on the game from that says kids or teens of mature and such? Also, never in my case (I am an elder) but I do recall once way back in 1993, when my cousin tried to rent Mortal Kombat (the first one even for SNES that was all 'censored' I remember he got majoyly 'upset' because they would not allow him to rent it at all. I also saw in my years at GameStop and other game stores they do follow this rule, yeah most game store employees are as stupid as a box of hair but every idiot knows not to sale kids a game with an M on it.

So what is the issue still, I have to wonder and ask even (I know we here are not idiot law passers, but still you have to wonder what the hell is going on in their heads.) I also know it does not even matter to us 'really' we are all of age, but otherwise, still just strange.

So what do they want now all over the news with this big 'we want this law passed' thing? Well, they want a BETTER rating system,the one used now is not good enough (give me a break...., I have seen NO, none at all A rated game for Adult, and hell I want to see one.) They also wanna 'bann' the sale of those 'harmful' games to children....errr they already follow that rule, Next they want to have all different sections of the game stores now, one with kiddie games for 'everyone' and one called well, the 'adult section' (Sorry this is STUPID, I mean okay well maybe you all can and do understand areas in the world like this, like around me, we have video stores (DVD stores and such) and the 'adult' mess the P0RN is all behind a black closed door in most cases saying hey stay out unless you are 18, I mean yeah makes even me feel like a perv to go in there and look for good stuff, but with the covers on p0rn DVDs of naked bodies, hey that I can understand.

But NOW they want a whole different area/room for these games to, Resident Evil (for GameCube I mean) must now be in the 'adult' area (if this law passes) because a zombie is 'choking Jill' on the cover of the game. (hell even the PSX RE's must stay there as well because they have 'demons/monsters' on the covers, or 'characters with guns'.

I mean well I am sorry about this and yeah it matters not really to use until 'if' that law passes and we get our own GSHI store going which means more bother to seperate 'everything', but even though it really does not matter it still pisses me off.

What pisses me off I mean is how 'stupid' all these stuffed shirt law makers and pushers are. I mean really, get a life for those people----PLEASE they say 'children who play these games grow up to be violent' (tieing this in with well shooting up a high school yet again.) The children who play these games are going to shoot their high school more or less the news even said they said. err One point, NONE of us here, nor all the millions and millions of gamers all around the world who plays and enjoys these games shoot up the high school.

I mean it is flat 'stupid' how people think everything happens for a reason, yes everything does happen for a reason BUT not one you can point to and figure out always, some people are going to kill, that is life, what is with the idiot law makers trying to kill the world for the rest.

I just simply believe that story about the scorion and the frog, the scoprion asks for a ride across the river, frog says but you will sting and kill me, scropion says if I do, I'd kill myself to, because I cannot swim, what sense would that make? Frog thinks abit and says okay, then while going across, the scoripion stings frog, as they both sink to their death frog asks, why did you sting me and kill even yourself? Scorpion says simple, because I am a scoripion. Which Means simple some people are going to do some awful mess in the world, we cannot lock everyone in a safty basket and treat the world like a baby and say 'good all is safe' 'LIFE' does not work that way at all.

anywya sorry for babbling on, just a mess really they want to pass a whole other law for the video game mess----AGAIN.

By the way the 'video games' they showed that they said were 'bad' and needs to be locked away in a black hole of the game store is (get this) Poke'mon, Metroid, and even Link (WIND WAKER) Titles (that little cartoon Link has a sword of corse he is BAD for the kiddies. :roll: )

Then again there is the other side, even the news gave a 'small tad' to that, the side of the game makers and people like myself, the side that says doing that stupid law takes AWAY freedom of speach and well alot of others as well, so with hope this law cannot be made, as is the 'p0rn' law is, you can have it, enjoy it, sale it, do whatever with it 'really' as long as it is art. (not illegal that nasty bad stuff types) and well do not bother with the children) I mean I am abit 'off' on those laws, it all on those depends on 'whom' you believe as is even children can look at 'naked' statues and even people having sex at the art museum, you know so ehh what a mess life is going, even USA wants to take away 'all the rights' of common people in the world now. (what Bullshit I say, again yeha does nto matter to 'us' all, btu ehh still what a bunch of idiots out there who want to 'put a freaking condom on the world'. :roll: )

~Amy

[LiquidManZero]

This seems to just be another one of the messed up things that seem to be happening recently. Though, this specific sort of thing has been going on for as long as there have been video games. It'd be one thing if there were actually any 'adult' games being sold.

[MathUser]

I am for some kinda ban on games with certain kinda scenes. I know god of war and leisure suit larry got nudity. Its funny how those escaped the AO rating. But u know, I don't think that kids should be playing those. Nobody should play "The guy game". It gots nudity but it sux big time.

Metal Gear solid, while graphic with gore and things don't have any kinda sex scenes or nudity so I don't really think that should be outlawed for kids.

[LiquidManZero]

Metal Gear Solid is no worse than what's shown on TV...

[Amy]

Well, I DO agree with the rating system and such as we have now and have had for years, I am just rather 'shocked' that they 'the senate' is still trying to put burden after burden on video games at all, I mean as I said we DO have that rating system, and it is followed by each and every idiot in the world.

I mean my big issue and bother with it all is well as said we HAVE a rating system that has been 'good' and okay for the past 12 years which was all brought about by 'Mortal Kombat' in the first place. So it works, why bother with it? as is NO game I have ever saw yet is 'Adult' rated, some games have naked women and such, but nothing 'adult' yet I saw, and a porn game...err that would be strange anyway. :shock:

Again my big issue and problem with it all, is 'why' mess with somehting that is not broke, what has gave senate to right to try and ruin all forms of 'entertainment' for well all ages really.

I mean 'really' we the senate and ALL of government should worry more about the bigger worries in life, like heck all the poor and homeless people, how about we help them all out instead of trying to 'kill' entertainment?

I know this is a thing 'always talked about in the government, and that sorta does bother me alot, I mean no does not bother me you keep the naughty things away from children til they are of age, but we have freaking nuts in the senate out there saying hey ban that mess for 'everyone' not just children...but they want a 'perfect' world in their eyes and erase it all from everything and everyone.

Most of all, this was 'reported' on local and world news all yesterday, which makes me think as I always did, news reporters are stupid also alot of time, they pretty much talk about any shit under the sun to fill up that time. It was like hey you have five minutes left, wanna let the TV get back to 'normal' TV shows? ehh hell no let's talk about some pointless senate shit about video games and shit, after all we cover ntohing really important unless someone gets killed so let go with it, stupid ass news reporters always. So yes is same old issue as always from the senate, again just bothers me people in power cannot REALLY go after true and real problems in the world. (The homeless and ehalthcare and all that other mess they could fix and ghange if they had any balls at all.)

As for the games themselfs, yes I agree that god of war game has naked women on it, the guy game, yes stupid but hehe hell even I had to grab that, it is funny, and well rather a 'collector's item' now, as is ONE girl on there is 17 years old, under aged and no one has 'made a law against that yet though she is sueing TopHeavy the makers of the game after she agreed she was 'of age' and got payed to be topless on the game itself, but 17 year old breasts ehhh not safe and not good, but ehh what the hell, people are indeed stupid I always say.

BUT that guy game, god ofw ar, any other game with topless breasts, or anything else like that was NOT mentioned, as I said, the games the 'senate' is afraid of and wants to ban is well...freaking Link (Zelda games) Metroid, and even Poke'mon games...nothing naked on those at all, this time ist is all based on what the senate calls 'too much violence' again again, and again, and again....

On the whole issue of video games make people kill, makes children shoot up the high school, I do not agree with that hell we all play games and we have not killed anyonem, we do not shoot up the high school, I think that is all on parents anyway and otherwise, hell look at those who done it, they can be either rich or poor, which why is the fact of income not counted in? Because like video games it does not matter.

Just a mess, and again I do agree with the games ratting system as it is now, as is hell has NOT been in the US even as far as I know 'any' A rated games at all yet, I think if someone is going to grow up to shoot up a high school, hey they are, sorry but it is true, a few bad apples do not ruin the whole pack like senate wants to think, Yes keep adult mess away from children, but no need to ruin it for those of us who are of age and enjoy it. Senate and the government should REALLY think about fixxing issues that really matter as well, enough with the 'video games cause violence' start by hell cleaning up the cities and streets and helping homeless and poor, then heck, help homeless and poor and violence goes away fast after all, then those homeless and poor do not have to be violent just to get simple food.

Again sorry just me and the type of person I am, I hate the stupid asses in governemnt to 'fuss' over soemthing they KNOW is not and will never be fixxed nor 'banned' and NOT worry about real issues of worry in the world. Also video games are VERY popular now, much more now then they were when I was little, now every child (well alot 9 out of 10) have a video game system in their home now. Just a mess I tell you, again yes I agree with game ratings, but why are they fussing about it 'again' now? now they wanna bann of all things Poke'mon and mess like that...really, senate get a real life. :roll:

~Amy

[KingEdgar0]

I think parents should do their damn job and put some effort into raising their kids and paying attention to what their kids watch/play. Why should video game retailers have to do the parent's job for them?

[CzarDragon]

I think the real problem is not what they play but how often they play. At home I think we had a Commadore 64 right when it was released in 1983. When I wasn't at school I was either on it or watching one of my brothers using it. Around Grade 6 I recall playing King's Quest V in a computer store across from the school. I never developed a social life and I partially blame an unchecked overusage of computers.

[LiquidManZero]

Heh, I found this, and thought it belonged here:

http://www.gamedeveloper.com/php-bin...php?story=5330

April 20, 2005

Playboy Steps Up To PSP Plate

Officials from Playboy Enterprises have announced that the company will offer nude and non-nude photo galleries that have been specifically formatted for viewing on the PSP, taking advantage of the open movie and image viewing capabilities of Sony's handheld.

Two non-nude galleries of fifteen photos, as well as a two to three minute video feature featuring 2005's Cyber Girl of the Year Amy Sue Cooper will be available free on Playboy.com for download to a Memory Stick Pro Duo PSP memory card. Only subscribers to the site's "Cyber Club" will have access to the nude shots, which will also be available in two nude galleries and one video.

"We know that many Playboy fans are also gaming enthusiasts who are likely to buy this type of device, so it was a natural progression for us to design this," said John. D. Thomas, editor of Playboy.com.

The move may be more significant than it might first appear, as this shows the ability of larger media companies to use the PSP's memory stick for targeted movie and image content, regardless of whether Sony approves of it. Indeed, for better or worse, the pornography industry has often been at the forefront of online business and if Playboy?s experiments prove successful then other companies may also be tempted to provide more content formatted specifically for the PSP.

Playboy has already been expanding its digital and gaming-related reach recently, with the release of the Playboy: The Mansion video game and a gallery of video game stars previously featured in various states of undress in a 2004 issue of Playboy magazine.
-David Jenkins, Simon Carless

[Amy]

I think parents should do their damn job and put some effort into raising their kids and paying attention to what their kids watch/play. Why should video game retailers have to do the parent's job for them?

I agree totaly with that KingEdgar. More and more these days, hell 'parents' do not wanna be 'parents'. ( I think maybe sadly it is a generation thing?) I mean my parents are great parents, just everyone now being new parents, just seem 'whacked' in the head. most all these stupid parents, and new parents are all like 'hey government help us rasie our children'. I did not have the government help my mom and dad raise me and neither did any of us here, so I do agree it is all the 'parents' these days. (A shame really, most of these parents are around 'our' ages and even younger, but well as life is, in each and every age group, you have all types.)

These parents always complain about doing 'their' job, I mean yes their is more 'dangers' to kids out there these days, but are also ways to prevent them. (The V-chip) and mess like that, Mess like HBO, Cinemax, all that mess and p0rn TV and all, if it is so bad, hey 'parents' do not buy it.

I mean that is what drives me mad, why people are so stupid to complain about stuff they do not even enjoy nor like, if you hate and think a p0rn magizine, movie, DVD or anything is 'nasty' and wrong, do not buy it, then hey, your 'kid' cannot watch it either.

ehh well anyway...the world is full of stupid people these days.

Otherwise on to more news, nice thing their LMZ hehe sorta sad, but hell, they will be 'attacking' that soon, I would expect.

On top of that, hey 'PlayBoy' not the best in 'p0rn' in the world, but well hey, as long as they make the naked body more open, I am all for that, at least their PSP stuff will be better then that darn stupid PlayBoy Mansion 'game' heh piece of crap. :P But anyway all good that they are trying, we really need Larry Flynt to start in and on the video game market and we'd see some real 'upset' parents. :P

Otherwise, in other enws just now even, I saw on AME HollyWood being 'cencored' (again) this whole issue of a 'rental' company (One of those like NetFlix places that rent from your mail box) only carry and 'edit' all movies to be 'clean'. They take mess like "Mean Girls' and make it 'clean' (edit the DVD so all the 'bad' parts are took out, sorta like they do when they show a rated R movie on that USA network or your local TV channels.)

Yeah this is stupid and all a 'fuss' about it going on in Hollywood these days, lawsuits about 'editing' copyrighted material and mess as all that.

As far as all that goes, well whatever they decide, we cannot really do anything about it, just drives me nuts how stupid these 'safe parents' are, I mean for real and serious, IF they do not want their kids watching 'Mean Girls' or other movies, do not show it to them----at all. IF parents want to watch it, hell go ahead, leave your little shit brats with grandma (she only watches HeeHaw anyway) and go see the damn movie and enjoy it away from the brats.

heh sorry about all that, just makes me pissed at the world that the 'world' wants 'US' all to care for their mistake children, instead of being a REAL parent and doing it themselfs.

From my own life even, I remember very well alot of times, hey my mom and dad wanted to go out to the movies and on the town, and I and my sisters and brothers were left at Grandma's house, we rather liked it even, was fun for us. Also I remember very well when I was young, I liked those little 'Gremilins' well not them, but you know the little fuzzy monkeys before you feed them after midnight. heh yes that mess, I rememebr they were cute and hey then MCDonald's or someone had those happymeal things with them in it, you'd get a little book and a little record that told the story that was printed in the book, there were five of them, and being not 'too old' hey I like it and wanted it. So much in fact I begged my dad to take me to the movie to see them for 'real' as I would think back then. So My dad sat me down and talked to me for awhile, you know all the stuff about 'this may scare you, it is not like your books, they look really scary and real' I accepted that and said Okay, and yes my dad and mom took me to see that movie. (It is and was a PG 13 movie I think so was nothing all 'bad' anyway) But my point is, yes I love my parents, and think and say they done a great job with me and the rest of us. I just believe and feel, hey if parents were like that these days 'real' parents, we would not have all this BS mumbo jumbo about 'this is bad for kids'. If it is bad for kids, hell keep the kids away from it.

Also now in talking about my parents, not saying you all's is bad, in fact I'd think and say even heck they had to be great as well, as is we all ehre are not the FREAKS running around saying 'this is bad this is bad' and all that mess.... again if it is bad, hey keep the children 'away' from it. (As with all my adult stuff, would take some home improvment, but hey when I have children, I shall have my 'adult' stuff and life 'locked' away from them, in a seperate room (I mean DVDs and emss like that) have a v-chip set up and all that mess.) So again is beyone me why all this 'fussing today about 'save the kids' heck, again as IS a parent's job, save your OWN kids yourself.

~Amy

[LiquidManZero]

I've noticed there seems to be a tendancy for the major movie producers currently editing movies to have a lower rating than they should, like most of the PG-13 'action' movies recently... The bastards are trying to get kids into the movies, and then make two version when it comes out on DVD...