Is this forum really needed these days? Just wondering....

[Amy]

Okay, I am sorry for this really...but in all reality, is this type of forum even needed here as the facts are.

Being the facts are, no one well, seemingly no one is here ahcking any type of PS2 cheat device codes at all, and it has been this way for qquite a long time.

I see a few requests yes some my own, but none never really answered.

I see ALOT of false promises of 'the PS2 code hacking is getting started' type threads that these days well just seems like and looks like dead ends and makes the hope of this forum just dead.

Excuse me for this, just am rather bothered by this, and really I do not see why we should tease ourselfs (me anyway) nor anyone else who comes here looking for PS2 codes and wind up being let down.

~Amy

[LiquidManZero]

I'm thinking, considering PS2 is on it's way to console 'death' now, there probably won't be much activity in here, unless either GSHI suddenly makes and distributes a hacking device, or ps2 emulation gets good enough to be of any use... I blame the current cheat device manufacturers for this, bastards...

[Amy]

Yes, I agree, exactly like that. I mean no disrespect to anyone who is trying nor anyone who at this time or anytime cannot get or have a PS2 or whatever, I do not blame for finaces, Heck even I understand I cannot have everything I want to buy in the world. I too blame the cheat devices companies....

It seems everytime somethign even comes out that can remotely make codes, or otherwise, suddenly The cheat device companies 'create the 'next version' and for some odd reason, change code encryption and no longer supports the products they just sold two days ago. Thus anyone who even learned how to hack these devices are also left in the dark, as now the cheat devices use codes that are 12 digits long, not 8 digits like it was just two days ago. (err the digit numbers I made up, but you see and know how that happens always) Look at that AR Max and AR Max Evo thing.... one a simple version number above, and yet one has 12 digit codes, the other is now 16 digits.

Also remember no disrespect to anyone in person now, but the code hackers of these 'companies' It is my opinion, please forgive me if this upsets anyone, but I do not believe code hackers for comapnaies these days work with love of the game like all the oldschool hackers of GSPro and such...hackers even before GSPro like you all here. CMX, Nick, CodeBoy, FNG...they do not care about the games, gameplay, nor anything they hack, they are hacking for money, no not a bad thing, but in doing so, they soon always get the 'I will half ass all the games and never look back' yes they do that, if they did not, there would never even be a need for code request forums on their sites. (Same thing they did at 'interact' when it was around...halfassed it)

To me well this may sound dirty to use it as a similar thing, but to me it is eact the same thing. It is like who would you want to make love to. (I mean love, not just pure sex now) a prostituteor gigiloe, or someone who loves you, someoen who truely loves and cares about you. I'd always go for the second, hey they will be there with you in the morning, and not hit you over the head, kill you and take your money. I view the same thing with code hacking sorta. Getting 'paid' to 'fart and poop' out games day after day, you start not to care and never to come back to it....just the same thing really.

Now, okay I know we all here are seeking to become a cheat device business, and this is a long ways off, but just saying, I hope it will not become ehre like it ahs others, if it does it would break my heart and soul, and I do believe we all have more character to not break like that.

So yeah it is scary about the future of hacking, specialy now with what we have now, the PS2 systems. and yes CodeBreaker is a piece of crap, and Action replay is also a piece of crap, asking for codes anywhere of those two sites never help you. I can and do understand why it does not really help here. lack of the hardware and software and finaces and such.....and yes PS2 is 'dying' really dying, heck last PS2 news I saw was the 'new' cheaper made PS2...and we all I am sure remember when the PSX with GS/PO port on that back was made 'cheaper' and suddenly became the 'PSOne' and had to use those crap CDX devices. This is PS2's first 'cheaper' redesign...looks like a sheet of paper even... and for sure they will find out ways to make it cheaper and cheaper and all else, and dissable cheat devices on it, then Datel and Pelican will of corse make new devices and all over again. til it dies.

Anyway sorry for all this, I am just afraid, really afraid of the future...not like life and death afraid, but afraid rather really, that honestly is mess goes on like this, wihtout code types I wish and beg for.... I am about to myself be drivened away totaly from video games in all. :cry:

I do not wish that I LOVE games...but the way things are.... and not sure what can be done in anyway to spark life back into anything here. Please excuse me but this is a melling pool pretty much, last codes that were talked about was for Tekken Tag Torniment. and that game is three years old, almost 4. Yet still... no codes were ever produced....again please forgive me, it is just well sad.....

And no I do not wish Tekken Tag codes, Those were finally made, thanks to CB messing up and having games of different versions of the game. Was the game 'hacked out totaly' no hell...but anyway that is past, now I wish and am dying for newer game codes now. So Tekken Tag is sorta out of mind, but as is life...I know sad, but ...is true.

~Amy

[LiquidManZero]

I remember reading a comment somebody made about the 'pstwo' only existing because it suits sony to have it, and not the original ps2. I'm certain, as with what happened to the original playstation, it's way cheaper for the parts it's made of, much cheaper to construct, and it's 'new' so certain types of morons will go out and buy it because it's so... 'cool' I suppose.

I think cheat devices are soon to be a rare thing. They're putting hundreds of times more effort into encrypting the codes than making the product of any use, which is just a waste in the end. I think it's not so much to stop people from hacking the codes, as to stop the competitors from being able to rip off codes, even though that's pretty much going to happen anyway. Eventaually people just aren't going to stand for the crap they have to put up with just to use a simple code that shouldn't take more than a few seconds to enter, that's suddenly turned into 20 lines of 32 digit encryption, just for the key to use one of their codes.

Not only is the encryption getting ridiculous, but more and more games are 'online', and online games don't go well with any sort of 'cheating', even if it has nothing to do with the gameplay. If I remember right, cheating in an online game is considered wire fraud, and that's a felony... Might even be considered an act of terrorism by now.

Even cheat devices and such aside, I think games aren't as good as they used to be. Most of them that I've seen are pretty much just old ideas redone with photo realistic graphics, high quality cheasy full surround sound, and are no where near as good as they should be considering the length of time they were in development. I'm not saying all recent games are like this, but a lot of them seem like that.

[Lazy Bastard]

I agree about the quality of games these days, for the most part, but I think the main reason I don't play many new games is simply what Amy refers to - lack of the ability to manipulate things infinitely.

I think it's safe to say that the GSHI isn't going to make cheat devices for the PS2/GC/X-Box generation (unless we go retro for coverage), but I have confidence that we'll find a way to get something out for the next generation. We just really need to find a way to finance things properly...next time we see each other in chat, let's go over it in some real detail, or at least try until we do.

[LiquidManZero]

I'm sure now that's the best thing, with the next two or three consoles comming out within about a year and a half.

Hell, I think we ought to try for handheld systems if possible. Even though I remember there being some sort of anti-hacking hardware built into at least the PSP. But of course, consoles should be the first victim, er, target.

[Amy]

heh ahhh well, hand helads may be a good idea...as is right now, 'a few' of them are now comming out, that new Nintendo thing the DS and Sony's new little toy. I myself am not into handhelds really, yes some I enjoy, but never was able to enjoy them yet on the GameCube with that little GBA player hook on.

The whole thing about hand helds, well sorta scares me.... I love games as always but when outside, walking...well I am more into 'enjoying the outdoors' and watching to make sure I do not get ran over or robbed while shopping and such. :P Maybe a girl thing? But when out at the malls and such blahhh I tend to have to always watch what is going on and such... you do and will miss alot of life if you not look. :P ...yeah I know just me, I love GBA games and all system games, but I can only play when sitting down watching it fully....err anyway that is abit off topic.

The thing about PS2 games...well heck I have more the a few requests, but being no one around can do them, or otherwise, no one around here can do them, this forum is more dead then any of the others, it seems sadly, but is true.

Only few people I know that can or otherwise does PS2 codes are... CMX, ofcorse (talking always here in PS2 land anyway about the CodeBreaker type of codes) Pyrial (does FFX2 and Suikden 3 type codes, but not seen him in half a year nearly) and GMO...which has also been missing in action for a good while now. The Lughi guy here, well was here, nto here no more it seems, claims he and others can do PS2 CB codes, but not to be rude, but heck I have seen nothing to that effect or any effect really....last thing I heard Tekken Tag Team was an 'idea' for a game to hack that never happened...and that has been a good long while really, PLUS CMX beat him to it anyway...so no need at all now anyway...

Again sorry, this is sad, and does sorta piss me off to be honest to even see this forum even here, it is almost like a mock. Again, sorry for being abit 'harsh' but just had to, and have to make feelings known freely as the world is and should be, and when I a girl seeking despretly codes all the time always, when I am pretty much mocked and made fun of more or less for wishing for codes.... yes I am and get rather upset like.

Then again, I am not exactly 'happy' with the GSCCC.com site either... I mean yeah CMX is the ONLY paid hacker, and is busy, but when someone does not even read or remotly do requests, it is indeed a pissy world.

Anyway if it ever happens, which is unlikely... if a device is ever made for code hacking on the PS2 before the piece of junk dies fully, the codes and games I have always wanted over at GSCCC.com is:

BloodRayne: Zero Time all slots and levels.
Infinite Health Mecha

BloodRayne 2: Zero Time All Slots & Levels

FFX: Time is 00:00:00 also the zero time same thing mess.

Buffy The Vampire Slayer Chaos Bleeds: All secrets found always all levels, Time is zero/00:00:00 and other such goodies.....

Again I know is rtaher pointless to ask for it all here, as is no one here anyway can help anyway, again that is not blame on you all, I do undertsand, time and money is hard to come by, and when someone does not have the access to hack, is just life... but still with hope someday maybe. And yeah sorry again but it does piss me off to be fooled with, to be told by certain people here "I can make/hack PS2 CB codes" and suddenly they vanish..... in other words I am sorry all you original guys we all know whom we are, but I do get tired of someone trying to feed me BS all the time, and I am sure you can and rather shall agree, more or less, well maybe less, but still....

Also, yes I called the PS2 a piece of crap, sorry but it rather is becomming the most 'poor' choice in game machines these days. Because of it is rather weak, and other then that well... cheat devices, they are alot better (hacker wise) on the GameCube...and XBox, nice machine but no cheat device anyway on that really. which sadly at times I feel the game world is comming to, the cheat device days are dying.... I hope that is not true, but sure does seem that way with all the BS these days.

~Amy

[LiquidManZero]

For a few years, people thought I hacked ps2/xbox/gc games... Of course they usually wanted things that are actually impossible...

I figure with handhelds, even if there's no chance of getting jumped, it still might get dropped and turned into a really expensive lump of useless bits... Even if the DS is effectively a portable n64, it'd still suck to have one, and then have something happen to it.

Gah, I ought to go make a post in the rants section... Oh wait, damn, I didn't finish it yet... So I'll just say what I'm thinking here...

Given the current state of 'console gaming' and more specifically cheat devices... It seems as though The console manufacturers are going to try as hard as possible to stop any manner of cheating on the next-gen systems, what with the certain push towards online everything short of photo-realistic interactive sex simulations (and the only reason that's not likely, is a matter of the people that would sell such a thing, have not the incredible resources to make a passable game of any modern sort...) The problem with anything considered cheating and online games, is that at least in this country that is illegal. Maybe even to the point of being 'an act of terrorism', but I already have said that at least once before. Aside from the anti-hacking things being done from the console side, the companies involved with making the devices for doing this 'cheating' are not going to want to mess with games that have online features, or are entirely online. I remember that all hell kind of broke loose when GSCCC was hacking Phantasy Star Online for dreamcast... If anything like that happened now, I wouldn't be all that suprised if whichever company was responsible, got themselves bought out and destroyed. I know that sounds silly, but eh, it is. Unless something changes, Datel will probably come out with the first cheat device(s) for the next-gen systems, if they make any. Pelican will go shit a brick, and claim it's a cheat device, and whoever owns the gameshark trademark now will go off, buy 40 ounces of malt liquor, and get piss drunk next to a dumpster somewhere. Or not, but I say my version of a possible future is at least probably entertaining to read. The way I see it, is whoever comes up with a good cheat device for a next-gen system, and can get it distributed decently, will pretty much have a good control of the entire non-cheap-asian-knockoff market. Not that I particuarly have anything against the rabid hordes of eastern clone manufacturers... Bleh, blaw... That's it, I'm done. I can't think of anything coherent anymore...

[Amy]

"Unless something changes, Datel will probably come out with the first cheat device(s) for the next-gen systems, if they make any. Pelican will go shit a brick, and claim it's a cheat device, and whoever owns the gameshark trademark now will go off, buy 40 ounces of malt liquor, and get piss drunk next to a dumpster somewhere."

heh that is pretty funny, and sad in a way at how true it is, even today. with the 'now' systems. Datel's AR... Okay device, but CodeBreaker is more popular...as far as at stores, and cheap in price and easy to use. Sorta odd however, the CodeBreaker never has any codes nor any ads or anything at all in all the game mags such as anything Datel does. I guess 'Pelican' though the better 'PS2 cheat device' is not exactly good on the 'money' side as Datel is...or it appears so always.

'Pelican bashing time'. :P Well with what I said above, ONLY one offical hacker... who is paid and looked at to do everything in the world, it always seems, other then that, I recall and they always want 'help' I mean over at the GSCCC.com forums, the 'contests' thay have and throw ever so often to 'gather game saves'. I mean well... what the hell? the 'Now' MadCatz GameShark saves have millions, and Pelican wants you the forum members to provide saves for them, all in a race, if you supply the most wow you get a 'System selector' Maybe would be an good thing IF that system selector was not so cheap and I already have a different companies one that is way better. I mean just is odd, they want saves and the winner gets a prize, but blahh the prize is rather ohh hummm anyhow. I turn over some 80 or so saves, I'd expect to be paid better...like cash or something of that sort, seeing as they seeming want to 'hire' you to play games for them for free...but anyway. :P :roll:

Anyway 'Datel' is not all that great as they used to be anyway also, yes they are the 'true' ones who made the beloved GSPro, what made us all love cheat devices...but ever sense those days, boy they have went down and up, alot more down then up, even though I do like the GameCube AR...still other then GC and GBA all their other mess sucks these days. The XBox AR...geeez wow a glorified 'Dex Drive' and they call it a 'cheat device' from the people of cheat device masters.... and the PS2 AR... is also really buggy... about as buggy as CB 7.0, and the 'old' but still sold new GS2 for PS2. CB and GS2 would 'freeze up after adding 4 game titles and erase all your added work. Strange that the 'companies never saw that til after it was shipped and they got YOUR money for the BS. But AR for PS2...it claims to have 'added features' and yet is a ripp off flat out lie. The AR claims it can and shall play any region DVD on your PS2 system. (Not that I do that at all really, just tested it a few times and found I was sold BS, and besides with a DVD player that plays any and all anyway, was just testing for a friend who wanted a movie but is only in PAL DVD format...anyway) AR Max for PS2 claims to play any region, and YET put any region DVD in and then it 'says' your TV is not proper to play this DVD. I wondered and questioned if this was BS or true, and told a cousin about it who is well not in an insult way but a geeky PC nerd heh and he took AR Max apart and tested it, seems that warning is nothing BUT BS because they feature to play any region DVD is just not there at all, just a gimic....also I shall also note that that same DVD player of mine I was talking about, I put the PAL DVD in there and ----it PLAYS. So goes to show I guess 'Datel' is into BS art selling as well.

Anyway.... both those cheat device companies have major issues and problems, but cannot do anything really, I guess other then wait and allow them to put themselfs out of business selling BS all the time, which may not be all too far away, Datel is always 'updating' to a new dongle thing and you have to buy the newest one, and Pelican is doing the same always... heck have a AR Max or a CB under version 7.0 and the companies no longer support them. Sooner or later gamers will get tire of shelling out money each and every month they decide to throw out new versions yet never handle requests.... but anyway that is how it goes I guess.




Other then any and all that, why is 'online' cheating considered and called illegal now anyway? I mean I am not into online games, nor think I shall be for awhile anyway, the not cheating really does draw me back off of it anywya and the simple way most online game play pretty much is dressed up alot by talk and when you play it it is rather boring and stupid at times. Well, anyway I heard the whole online thing was because, it is said to be 'unfair' if you and I are both online on the same game and you buy a cheat device, are able to cheat and kick my ass all over because you are level 999999 and I am level 8... I mean yeah I see and saw that 'bitching' alot. But really, if YOU buy a cheat device, YOU should be able to benefit from it, so I myself do not udnerstand this or see why that even matters in 'law' but that is what I heard anyway. I mean 'really' if I was pissed being at level 8 and getting my ass kicked, I'd pretty much say hell I need to buy a cheat device and get to level 9999999 as well. I see and know the all powerful 'online game makers' (Bill gates that feakin prick) are all 'afraid' that if level 8's get their asses kicked, they STOP playing online games. I know that is what they think, but gahhh that is the SAME thing that was all said and 'worried' and fought over when Nintendo 'sueed' and kept the Galoob Game Genie from shipping and being sold years ago. Hell history repeats itself and those idiots never learn as I always see.... :roll:

Anyway that is only what I heard and know, as is I am not and do not right now care for online games because of how much they are always screwing what could be great up...like always, so I am sorta asking, is that the whole deal, or maybe abit more? ...is just sorta corny at all the 'money people in the world' but ehhh maybe someday once history of the old Game Genie repeats itself once again once more, we will finally get to more proper cheating.

I am all for cheating, and yes hehe I admit and you all know I love cheating, please do excuse me for cheating, but heck, I do not have all the time in the world to sit on a game 80+ hours just going up levels, yeah I did when I was younger...and even then hell it was boring as hell. :P But these days, 'level up and finding all items and all that jazz...well, I just am all for cheating, as I know we all are, just wish the more money game maker people were also and saw that nothing is wrong with it. And does not destory a game, makes it alot better, and hey they never seem to know the simple truth that once we all finsih a game, the more we want a new another one... heck... are game makers and such other people in the world THAT unused to pure human nature? :shock:

~Amy

[LiquidManZero]

In a way, it sort of seems like cheat devices are sort of like micro$oft products. They're annoying as hell, unstable, and if you complain about something being wrong with it, the company insists there is nothing wrong. If nothing else, I'm sure they're all just trying to squeeze as much money out of everybody before enough people notice (and pay attention). They're too damn greedy. As little as possible is put into the production, the product is shit, and people will buy it just because there's nothing in the way of options. And the bastards go so far as to treat the people who gave them money like shit...

I never did like pelican. The first code breaker was merely a hacked version of blaze's xploder. And that thing was supposed to be the most powerful thing ever made, but fell short. I don't have any idea when pelican first came about, or how they might've started. It always seemed like they were a small shit company trying to compete with interact/datel and mad catz, and shouldn't have managed to survive with the badly made products they had. But, datel is almost completely opposite. They've been around making cheat devices for about the last 20 years or so. At least up until the whole cdx problem, they actually made quality stuff. It seems like usually, whatever action replay existed was more powerful that whatever easily found game genie or so at the time. At least that's how it used to be. Now it looks like a matter of this is shit, that's shit, hell, all of it's shit, might as well be made by the same company. Just have each one that's selling it change the sticker with their logo on it... Nobody'll notice the lack of difference, at least not for a few years. And before that happens, they can loot, pillage, and rape the customers all they want. Bleh, now I'm being silly again...